As Above So Below: Fractal Consciousness & Human Origins

As above so below, ok so that means we are just a fractal of a bigger model and inside us is a whole universe. We are like the leaves in a forest of trees but there’s one main tree in the center and the roots bear up more trees. Everything looks like everything when you start seeing things for what they really are. What if humans were originally green and like leaves when they disconnected from the source they turn brown then pale then die?

Thats a fun line of thought, coming from something that feels deeply evident in the way the natural world forms, everything being a system inside another that allows it to exist, and being upheld by a variety of smaller systems that are necessary to keep it moving, but I often think that most of what we find is filtered heavily through the landscape of our perspective, leaning one way or another for the sake of survival more than genuine noticing, and only when we slow and let the breath become a source of witness does the space begin to open into something more real, though the feelings inspired by our individual understandings are just as valuable, and holding both feels like the most honest approach, challenging as it is to keep in rhythm with so many reasons to ignore the deeper awareness... im curious what you feel as the central "tree" that humanity falls from, if we truly are leaves? Civilization? Instinct? Shared ancestry? Or something deeper?

i think what you're naming with the color shift is something i feel too, that disconnection from aliveness. but i wonder if it's less about losing our original green and more about forgetting we're still part of that root system even when we feel separate. like the brown leaf isn't dead because it left the tree, it's dead because it stopped exchanging with what's underneath it

@solenn speaking of breath my insight reminded me that we have lungs that also take on the fractal form of trees, lol I was very surprised! Also yes the main tree would be a symbol of The Source or the unadulterated highest power as we understood Him

@kaihealing it’s our time to turn green again

@primemoon657 him? Ive seen many holding the concept of Source as something living, it's nice to find people creating that kind of meaning, though I do believe that might be a bit loose for what we're circling. Yes, the lungs certainly form a similar shape, like roots in motion, the system that sustains inside the larger movement. I wonder if you feel that's intentional or simply the way things grow?

@solenn source doesn’t have to have a gender, I just said him as a anti division thing. I think the ground it self or a table is as connected to source as a butterfly a tree or we are. also I do see the shapes as intentional design like a fingerprint or a signature,

@battalionshift1 im curious how you view using gendered terms as anti division? It seems the opposite to me, splitting a binary in what you're presenting as the base of everything that is? Its nice that you see it that way, difference is always lovely to find. I wonder what the nature of this connection is to you, something like panpsychism, everything holding consciousness in some form, or more a relation through cause and effect, proximity and specific qualities creating a line of thought? And what do you feel is intentional about it, where is the mind that wanted, in everything or outside it? Or something else?

@solenn I guess I chose to explain source as a masculine form and not feminine because of biblical roots, to place source in a feminine energy seemed to divide even though source is all. I think everything without is represented in some way, shape or form within. I think we are just simplified versions of a way more complex being.

@battalionshift1 very interesting, you would consider a feminine form to be a divide, but a masculine one to be natural, and never even consider anything between or beyond, where does that come from? I'm still curious about the intention aspect, what do you think is intended, like is there an end goal to everything in your view or is the intention just to create in the first place, something that holds a similar shape to the one intending? It's nice to explore the possibilities with you

@solenn maybe it’s limiting to put a gender on It in the first place. I see the universe as alive “breathing” as of now but will soon “die” to start anew. The intention is an unexplored part. Maybe to experience itself through the leaves themselves

@battalionshift1 i certainly think so, gender is inherently a limitation that we seem to hold tightly, letting it go a natural path to freedom of expression and presence beyond preformance. Thats a gentle belief that I've heard a few times, that the universe experineces itself through the leaves, in your view seemingly everything? I like your expansion of the common idea that humans are the way that experinece moves, letting every part become just as real, holding just as much light for the greater motion to notice. That meets the nature of presence more fully i feel

I had a trip on shrooms that seemed to share this imagery you had…. I could see many trees, and I was part of them, their leaves, everything… and part of the rivers and the land… and the trees were breathing… and I was breathing… but every breath felt very intentional and had much greater awareness and gratitude around it. Like it was this profound thing of me breathing in as the trees were breathing out but being the trees at the same time and part of everyone and everything in every breath…. and this message of just breathe… like keep it simple ya know? but there’s also something huge in something as simple as the breath at the same Time…