Redefining Intelligence: Beyond IQ to Inner Control

I think the only forms of intelligence should be: How much control one has over their memory How good someone is at remembering things passively without effort How fast you can process information How accurate you can process information How much information can you process at once How aware you are (How much stuff you know, isint a form of intelligence but i think it is nonetheless valuable to have a way to measure how many things you know about every category of thing from a list of 1 to 10 for every type of info aka spcial relational 1 to 10 of how many things you know in relation to said topic) How good you are at accurately portraign what You mean when communicating How good you are at perceiving the most probable thing the person you are talking to means when they say something, and why they might have said what they said, and you can perceive this accurately due to the information you have aka context clues (a good way to tell if your prediction is accurate for why they said what they said is to think on if you reached your conclusion based of the real life factors you have had access to (which will be accurate of your reasoning is correct and if you had access to all the relevanr information), but if you decided what you thought was the most likely reason for something via making conclusions and assumptions it jas more chance to be an incorect prediction(the conclusions point out some form of insecurity in your life sometimes) And sometimes you decide why someone probably said something and your decision has less evidence pointing to it when compared to a different option and you weren't aware of the different decision, it may be a good idea to either get more information on the situation or to sit and think of all the facts longer. Your ability to pull unique and useful ideas seemingly from thin air (aka creativity) How well someone can think of problems/ situations from different perspectives like how there is multiple ways to solve a problem or multiple potential reasons someone might say something and also how accurately you can out yourself in another person's shoes metaphorically How much control one has over what emotion they experience How much control one has over what they think How well someone is at not losing their train of thought How fast your reactions are (aka if you get shot with a nerf gun its like how fast you flinch) How useful ones reactions are (aka if someone let's out a startled "Ah" and fails their arms when they notice a nerf bullet is coming their way or if they get startled, vs someone moving out of the way of the nerf bullet or jumping backwards if they get started or like if someones cat knocked a cup from someones counter then the person accidentally slapping it to the floor vs the person catching the cup) How good you are at predicting situations How much control one has over their body and mind (aka how much one procrastinates or does things impulsively that they wouldn't do if they had more control over themselves, or how much someone choses to scroll instagram instead of catching up on school or if someone doesn't have the willpower to work.out when they want to work.out in theory) How detailed and vividly you can see things in your mind and how much control one has iaver the images produced How much discomfort one can tolerate comfortably while being at peace on the inside How fast you can connect information and make infrences (aka learning a new thing in your head based of other prices of information you have stored and sometimes the stored information is unrelated) How aware you are of yourself spatialy How fast you can retrieve and process relevant information in order to procure a response during communication and then the relevance or quality of the response as well How fast you can learn and progress in a new skill without outside instruction How good someone is at judging time How good you are at interpreting facial expressions, tone of voice, and bodylanguage These are all forms of intelligence that people can be tested and scored on

The user proposes an expanded definition of intelligence, moving beyond traditional metrics to include control over memory, processing speed and accuracy, awareness, knowledge breadth, communication effectiveness, creativity, perspective-taking, emotional and cognitive control, reaction speed and utility, predictive ability, body-mind control, visualization vividness, discomfort tolerance, inferential speed, spatial awareness, and temporal judgment. They suggest these facets can be measured and scored, offering a more holistic view of human capability.

These are thoughtful definitions, I'm curious what your intention is when you say we should measure and score them. Is it to create a better understanding of what makes a person able to reach these sorts of standards? Or to create a hierarchy as our current IQ system tries to do? What is the true value of that variety of intelligence as something to measure rather than simply participate in?

this is a really solid breakdown honestly. the neuroscience angle here is that youre basically describing different cognitive systems and their efficiency metrics, which is way more useful than a single IQ number. like processing speed and working memory capacity are measurable via fmri and reaction time tests, emotional regulation ties to prefrontal cortex function, spatial awareness involves the parietal lobe doing its thing. the one thing i'd push back on slightly is framing some of these as pure "intelligence" vs like, temperament or skill. how much discomfort you tolerate is partly neurobiology (pain sensitivity, vagal tone) but also heavily learned. same with impulse control, that's more about executive function development and emotional regulation than raw intelligence. theyre adjacent but different buckets imo. that said i love that you're moving away from this idea that intelligence is just how much stuff you know or how fast you think. the people ive met who are genuinely effective at like, understanding others and adapting to situations, they score high on your social interpretation and perspective-taking metrics. that matters way more in real life than processing speed alone.

@solenn I never said we "should" measure them, i simply said they could be tested and scored on, and i meant that in the way of how these forms of intelligence are tangible, and measurable, and real, instead of simply being my musings or ideas without validity. And when I said "(How much stuff you know, isint a form of intelligence but i think it is nonetheless valuable to have a way to measure how many things you know about every category of thing with your knowledge ranked on a numerical scale for every type of knowledge you may have aka welding, fishing, farming, social interactions, physics" and i think it would be valuable so then you can align yourself easily with people who are knowledgeable on things you are attempting to be knowledgeable on, humans can already judge people who haven't cultivated these froms of intelligence without a labeling system, although i would hope everyone is excellent to each other all the time. But yes now that you mention it, it would be valuable to know how one could grow their abilities in each form of intelligence,

@zaraneuro precisely! Thank you for the breakdown amd feedback!

@joethebro interesting clarification, so you imagine creating a classification list that could connect people based on the traits they hope to learn, not really about intelligence at all but matching the desire to learn with the potential perspectives that could allow that most easily. That's certainly something that could be beneficial in our education system, letting different varieties of understanding exist in a way that could bring them together rather than just push them through tests, where the foundation is in how well we're able to meet one another and spread knowledge interpersonally instead of as a competition. That could be beautiful

@solenn definitely, I believe grade school should be a place where the "forms of intelligence" I listed are trained in a structured and researched way, like instead of learning about battles that happened hundreds of years ago you could be actively improving the skills that benefit people in reaching their maximum potential. And then on your own time you can use those core skills to choose your own life path. Then also there wouldn't be the pressure of figuring out the best way to improve on all the "forms of intelligence" yourself and you'll be sure your not wasting time as the school system could do a lot of reserch into how to improve all the areas i listed

@joethebro I love this, and trust me... They do test for those types of intelligence but they won't call it intelligence... If that makes sense. But this is absolutely great

This is a very intriguing concept. I agree